PDoggy wrote:
"Sorry Watch, but Glocks with 30 round clips, affiliating with white supremacists, calling a classmate a "terrorist for killing the baby" when she read a poem about abortion, and advocating for the gold standard are all extreme right wing views."
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This is important information. That statement on abortion, almost certainly means that our "good friend" Jared Loughner was a right wing conservative.
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Then why, why, why wouldn't PDoggy (a liberal)give a source for such damning information? Maybe it is because he is just lazy. No, I doubt it.
Do you think it could be that he doesn't want us to know what the rest of the article says?
Lets take a look: (Keep in mind that the NY Times is an extremely liberal newspaper.)
“As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy,” the former classmate, Caitie Parker, wrote in a series of Twitter feeds Saturday. “I haven’t seen him since ’07 though. He became very reclusive.”
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“He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in ’07, asked her a question & he told me she was ‘stupid & unintelligent,’ ” she wrote."
Excerpt from the NY Times newspaper
www.nytimes.com/2011/01/09/us/politics/09shooter.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1
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I am so sick of the far left liberal's lies and half truths!!! Yesterday, I saw that some liberal had written that Loughner had put Sarah Palin in his "likes list" on Facebook. I saw Loughner's Facebook page before they took it down. The liberal's statement was a complete fabrication. No wonder we do not want you liberals writing our childrens' history books!
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Yes, Loughner did not like illegal immigration, many Democrats these days, do not... including Rep. Giffords. Many Democrats also do not like the killing of unborn babies, like Senator Harry Reid (D) NV.
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Now, I am willing to admit that this guy killed because he was schizo, and not because he was a liberal. But I am tired of you liberals lying and telling half truths, to try and prove your false theory, that right leaning political pundits made this guy go on a killing spree. It is pure hateful BS and you all know it.
Monday, January 10, 2011
Sanitariums Coming Back Soon?
Tucson, Arizona (CNN) -- In his first public statement since the weekend shooting rampage outside an Arizona supermarket, the husband of a wounded U.S. congresswoman thanked supporters and expressed condolences to families of other victims.
Xliberalfool wrote:
This guy was definitely a member of the "padded walls club". I think that we can all agree on that.
I see many of you writing that someone should have done something about this kid's mental state, long before it came to this.
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Question: Are you all ready to limit our civil liberties in order to stop these types of tragedies from occurring? Are we ready to give up the right to refuse medical/psychiatric treatment? I have experience in dealing with psychotic patients, and many will refuse their medications. Anti-psychotic drugs have pretty nasty side effects, sometimes (but rarely) they can even prove to be fatal.
(There is more under "Reply" to this comment.)
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Right now, we can hold and treat someone, only if their behavior is bad enough that the police believe their is an imminent threat of physical harm to that person's self or others. Even then, the confinement is only a maximum of 2-3 days (I believe that is the law. Let me know if I am incorrect).
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What I am talking about is forcibly treating people on both an inpatient an out-patient basis, for many years/decades. We would have to identify them, round them up at least once a month, hold them down, and give them a depot (long term) shot of anti-psychotic meds. Unfortunately anti-psychotic meds do not work for everyone, and some would require confinement in government run sanitariums.
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How would you like it, if some government doctor thought your son/daughter might be a little too eccentric, and there was nothing that you could do to make government leave him/her alone. That is a slippery slope to start on, and most of all... it is down right un-American. But so is shooting your congresswoman, a federal judge, and a nine year old girl. I have not made up my mind on this yet.
Xliberalfool wrote:
This guy was definitely a member of the "padded walls club". I think that we can all agree on that.
I see many of you writing that someone should have done something about this kid's mental state, long before it came to this.
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Question: Are you all ready to limit our civil liberties in order to stop these types of tragedies from occurring? Are we ready to give up the right to refuse medical/psychiatric treatment? I have experience in dealing with psychotic patients, and many will refuse their medications. Anti-psychotic drugs have pretty nasty side effects, sometimes (but rarely) they can even prove to be fatal.
(There is more under "Reply" to this comment.)
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Right now, we can hold and treat someone, only if their behavior is bad enough that the police believe their is an imminent threat of physical harm to that person's self or others. Even then, the confinement is only a maximum of 2-3 days (I believe that is the law. Let me know if I am incorrect).
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What I am talking about is forcibly treating people on both an inpatient an out-patient basis, for many years/decades. We would have to identify them, round them up at least once a month, hold them down, and give them a depot (long term) shot of anti-psychotic meds. Unfortunately anti-psychotic meds do not work for everyone, and some would require confinement in government run sanitariums.
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How would you like it, if some government doctor thought your son/daughter might be a little too eccentric, and there was nothing that you could do to make government leave him/her alone. That is a slippery slope to start on, and most of all... it is down right un-American. But so is shooting your congresswoman, a federal judge, and a nine year old girl. I have not made up my mind on this yet.
Sunday, January 9, 2011
Congress Woman Shot, Funny
An FBI official that is familiar with the case, says that Jared Loughner is a long time member of both the Illuminati and the secret Vril societies, and that these organizations may have orchestrated the assassination attempt on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.
The FBI official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing investigation, says Rep. Giffords chaired a powerful congressional committee, that oversees a CIA program dedicated to using satellites in order to control the thoughts and decisions of current and past world leaders. "This may have been the first step in an Illuminati/Vril plot to seize power over these sophisticated, mind-control satellites." said the FBI agent.
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UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, U.S. President Barak Obama, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, and other world leaders, are being urged to wear aluminum foil hats in hope of preventing total world domination by the Illuminati and Vril societies.
The FBI official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing investigation, says Rep. Giffords chaired a powerful congressional committee, that oversees a CIA program dedicated to using satellites in order to control the thoughts and decisions of current and past world leaders. "This may have been the first step in an Illuminati/Vril plot to seize power over these sophisticated, mind-control satellites." said the FBI agent.
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UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon, U.S. President Barak Obama, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, and other world leaders, are being urged to wear aluminum foil hats in hope of preventing total world domination by the Illuminati and Vril societies.
Congress Woman Shot, take it like a man!
Yahoo News article:
"In the aftermath of the Giffords’ shooting, a debate over heated political rhetoric"
"The ubiquitous nature of the internet means that not only threats, but hate speech and other inciteful speech is much more readily available to individuals than quite clearly it was eight or ten or fifteen years ago," Mueller said. "That absolutely presents a challenge for us, particularly when it results in what would be lone wolves or lone offenders undertaking attacks."
From Yahoo News
I have been saying this for years! I think that John Lennon's "vitriol" music and the internet providing 24 hours a day access to it, caused that wacko Chapman, to assassinate John Lennon.
"On Sunday, politicians from both sides of the aisle cautioned against inflamed rhetoric,"
It seems to me, that politicians from both sides of the aisle, should be cautioning against schizophrenics who smoke tons of pot.
Why is it that this "vitriol" speech was okay and fine, for the 8 years that George W. Bush was president, but now that a liberal is in the White House... it is vitriolic hate speech & completely out of line. Just another double standard from the liberals. Liberals, if you can dish it out - then you can take it. Just bite the pillow, and take it like a "man", because we Republicans "have our sites set" on the White House, in 2012. Conservatives are going to "blow the polls up" come November, 2012.
Mexican Drug Cartels, Wealthy Censored
(I have to add periods in the words, and misspellings, so that they will let me post this comment.)
What is really scary, is the n.a.r.c.o/d.rug w.ars in Aust.ralia and S. Kor.ea. I worry about those two narc.otic hubs exploding into vio.lence, everyday.
Don't you all know that the reason Me.xico is having such a terr.ible problem with dr.ug car.tels, is because of POV.ERTY! Everyone is screaming "Those poor, poor Mex.icans. What about the child.ren!!! Give them a DRE.AM for the future! "The only way an hon.est Mex.ican cit.izen can survive, is buy sell.ing poi.son." That is what they tell us, right?
The U.S. should not help in Me.xico's wa.r against themselves (the dru.g cart.els), not at all. No money should be sent to Mex.ico to fig.ht their nar.co-terr.orist, not even the slightest bit. Not one U.S. cent.avo!
Mex.ico is the 14th most wealthiest nation, on earth. Just slightly less prosperous than Austr.alia, and a little bit better off than S. Ko.rea.
Me.xico has a huge ill.icit dru.g buying/using market themselves... Mex.ican dru.g add.icts have real buying power. The Mex.ican market is what the cart.els are fighting over, not Ame.rica's dr.ug market!
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The reason Me.xico is plag.ued with dr.ug-cartel/na.rco viole.nce, is because of what is in Mex.ico itself... COR.RUPT MEXI.CANS.
Shoot, that cou.ntry's corr.uption rivals that of Afgha.nistan and Ir.aq.
Let Mex.ico fight the drug ca.rtels, on there own!!!
What is really scary, is the n.a.r.c.o/d.rug w.ars in Aust.ralia and S. Kor.ea. I worry about those two narc.otic hubs exploding into vio.lence, everyday.
Don't you all know that the reason Me.xico is having such a terr.ible problem with dr.ug car.tels, is because of POV.ERTY! Everyone is screaming "Those poor, poor Mex.icans. What about the child.ren!!! Give them a DRE.AM for the future! "The only way an hon.est Mex.ican cit.izen can survive, is buy sell.ing poi.son." That is what they tell us, right?
The U.S. should not help in Me.xico's wa.r against themselves (the dru.g cart.els), not at all. No money should be sent to Mex.ico to fig.ht their nar.co-terr.orist, not even the slightest bit. Not one U.S. cent.avo!
Mex.ico is the 14th most wealthiest nation, on earth. Just slightly less prosperous than Austr.alia, and a little bit better off than S. Ko.rea.
Me.xico has a huge ill.icit dru.g buying/using market themselves... Mex.ican dru.g add.icts have real buying power. The Mex.ican market is what the cart.els are fighting over, not Ame.rica's dr.ug market!
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The reason Me.xico is plag.ued with dr.ug-cartel/na.rco viole.nce, is because of what is in Mex.ico itself... COR.RUPT MEXI.CANS.
Shoot, that cou.ntry's corr.uption rivals that of Afgha.nistan and Ir.aq.
Let Mex.ico fight the drug ca.rtels, on there own!!!
Mexican Drug Cartels, Wealthy
What is really scary, is the narco/drug wars in Australia and S. Korea. I worry about those two narcotic hubs exploding into violence, everyday.
Don't you all know that the reason Mexico is having such a terrible problem with drug cartels, is because of POVERTY! Everyone is screaming "Those poor, poor Mexicans. What about the children!!! Give them a DREAM for the future! "The only way a honest Mexican citizen can survive, is buy selling poison." That is what they tell us, right?
The U.S. should not help in Mexico's war against themselves (the drug cartels), not at all. No money should be sent to Mexico to fight their narco-terrorist, not even the slightest bit. Not one U.S. centavo!
Mexico is the 14th most wealthiest nation, on earth. Just slightly less prosperous than Australia, and a little bit better off than S. Korea.
Mexico has a huge illicit drug buying/using market themselves... Mexican drug addicts have real buying power. The Mexican market is what the cartels are fighting over, not America's drug market!
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The reason Mexico is plagued with drug-cartel/narco violence, is because of what is in Mexico itself... CORRUPT MEXICANS.
Shoot, that country's corruption rivals that of Afghanistan and Iraq. Let Mexico fight the drug cartels, on there own!!!
Don't you all know that the reason Mexico is having such a terrible problem with drug cartels, is because of POVERTY! Everyone is screaming "Those poor, poor Mexicans. What about the children!!! Give them a DREAM for the future! "The only way a honest Mexican citizen can survive, is buy selling poison." That is what they tell us, right?
The U.S. should not help in Mexico's war against themselves (the drug cartels), not at all. No money should be sent to Mexico to fight their narco-terrorist, not even the slightest bit. Not one U.S. centavo!
Mexico is the 14th most wealthiest nation, on earth. Just slightly less prosperous than Australia, and a little bit better off than S. Korea.
Mexico has a huge illicit drug buying/using market themselves... Mexican drug addicts have real buying power. The Mexican market is what the cartels are fighting over, not America's drug market!
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The reason Mexico is plagued with drug-cartel/narco violence, is because of what is in Mexico itself... CORRUPT MEXICANS.
Shoot, that country's corruption rivals that of Afghanistan and Iraq. Let Mexico fight the drug cartels, on there own!!!
Saturday, January 8, 2011
Congress Woman Shot
@ PatGal and BuntingHeads
Yes. You are both right. I am very conservative when it comes to politics, but even I have to admit that Rep. Giffords is an extremely honest and fair politician. She is a true patriot, which is always an asset to this country. It is just so sad what happened to all of these good people.
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This, Jared Loughner, guy is obviously suffering from schizophrenia. His ideology is straight from the psychology text book's chapter on schizophrenia. The liberals are trying to make it seem that a belief in small government, and the gov. is controlling my mind, is one and the same. Right wing pundits had nothing to do with this, and the far left knows it.
Bending the truth, so that the death of five patriotic citizens and an innocent 9 year old child, meets their political agenda, is truly heinous. The media should be fined, and the liberals (on these threads) who have taken part in it, should be ostracized by the community. Oh, but that is not the American way.
The media and their cohorts are paying a hefty price for their evil ways. The Chronicle and every other liberal media source, are barely keeping their heads above water. Many people, like myself, are abandoning the liberals everyday. It is only natural, that no one wants to be affiliated with them anymore.
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My condolences to the family of the dead, and I wish the best for the injured and to have a speedy recovery. I wonder what Rep. Giffords will think about her fellow Democrats behavior, after she gets better?
Yes. You are both right. I am very conservative when it comes to politics, but even I have to admit that Rep. Giffords is an extremely honest and fair politician. She is a true patriot, which is always an asset to this country. It is just so sad what happened to all of these good people.
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This, Jared Loughner, guy is obviously suffering from schizophrenia. His ideology is straight from the psychology text book's chapter on schizophrenia. The liberals are trying to make it seem that a belief in small government, and the gov. is controlling my mind, is one and the same. Right wing pundits had nothing to do with this, and the far left knows it.
Bending the truth, so that the death of five patriotic citizens and an innocent 9 year old child, meets their political agenda, is truly heinous. The media should be fined, and the liberals (on these threads) who have taken part in it, should be ostracized by the community. Oh, but that is not the American way.
The media and their cohorts are paying a hefty price for their evil ways. The Chronicle and every other liberal media source, are barely keeping their heads above water. Many people, like myself, are abandoning the liberals everyday. It is only natural, that no one wants to be affiliated with them anymore.
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My condolences to the family of the dead, and I wish the best for the injured and to have a speedy recovery. I wonder what Rep. Giffords will think about her fellow Democrats behavior, after she gets better?
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